Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/08/2004 01:00 PM House JUD

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SB 364 - LIMIT STATE AID FOR MENTAL HEALTH CARE                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Contains mention  that the  proposed House  committee substitute                                                               
mirrors  the latest  House version  of the  bill, CSHB  535(JUD),                                                               
which was reported from committee on 5/6/04.]                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1670                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
CS FOR  SENATE BILL  NO. 364(HES)(efd fld),  "An Act  relating to                                                               
liability  for expenses  of placement  in  certain mental  health                                                               
facilities;  and   relating  to   the  mental   health  treatment                                                               
assistance program."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE stated  that public testimony on SB  364 is closed,                                                               
and mentioned that the proposed  House committee substitute (HCS)                                                               
in  members' packets  mirrors  the latest  House  version of  the                                                               
bill,  [CSHB  535(JUD),  which was  reported  from  committee  on                                                               
5/6/04].                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1708                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON  moved to adopt  the proposed HCS  for SB
364,  Version 23-GS2080\I,  Mischel, 5/7/04,  as the  work draft.                                                               
There being no objection, Version I was before the committee.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG  directed attention  to page  1, line  11, and                                                               
noted that  it says  that the  patient's parent  will pay  if the                                                               
patient is under 18 years of age.   He asked how that would apply                                                               
when the  patient is an  emancipated minor.  Would  the patient's                                                               
parent still be obligated to pay?                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  pointed out that that  language is part                                                               
of current  law.  He  offered his belief  that the intent  of the                                                               
language is  that it apply  only to unemancipated minors;  once a                                                               
minor is emancipated, then the parent,  as a matter of law, is no                                                               
longer responsible.  He characterized  the language being used as                                                               
standard   language   that   automatically   doesn't   apply   to                                                               
emancipated minors.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1824                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL  HOGAN, Director,  Central  Office,  Division of  Behavioral                                                               
Health (DBH),  Department of Health  and Social  Services (DHSS),                                                               
concurred that once a minor  is emancipated, he/she is considered                                                               
an adult.   He relayed that  the number of children  being served                                                               
by  this program  is  less  than 3  percent  of  the total  being                                                               
served;  so in  a year  where the  average number  of individuals                                                               
being served by  this program is about  250, only 6 or  7 of them                                                               
are children.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG  pointed out, however, that  the language does                                                               
not specify that it pertains only to unemancipated minors.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG suggested  changing  the language  such                                                               
that it does specify an unemancipated minor.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1873                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG made  a motion to adopt  Amendment 1, to                                                               
change page  1, lines 6-7  and 18, such  that "under 18  years of                                                               
age" is replaced  with "an unemancipated minor".   There being no                                                               
objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1906                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON moved  to report the proposed  HCS for SB
364,  Version 23-GS2080\I,  Mischel, 5/7/04,  as amended,  out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1919                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG noted that there  is language on page 2,                                                               
line 4, similar to that which was changed via Amendment 1.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  [made a  motion to adopt]  Amendment 2,  to change                                                               
page 2 [lines 4-5] such that  "under 18 years of age" is replaced                                                               
with "an unemancipated minor".                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  suggested asking the drafter  to make a                                                               
similar  change wherever  the  phrase, "under  18  years of  age"                                                               
occurs.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1931                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE  asked  whether   there  were  any  objections  to                                                               
Amendment 2.  There being none, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN  noted that that  phrase is also  used on page  4 [line                                                               
12].                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE referred to that  [possible change] as Amendment 3,                                                               
and prompted Representative Gruenberg.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1969                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG said,  "Okay; 'under  18 years  of age'                                                               
should be 'an unemancipated minor'".   [Although no formal motion                                                               
was made, Amendment 3 was treated  as moved and adopted]  He then                                                               
asked  whether  the  phrase  "under  18 years  of  age"  is  used                                                               
elsewhere in AS 47.31.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN offered his belief that it is.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked Mr. Hogan  to provide him  with a                                                               
list of instances  where it is used, for the  purpose of possibly                                                               
making conforming amendments at another time.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1996                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON  again made  the  motion  to report  the                                                               
proposed HCS  for SB 364,  Version 23-GS2080\I,  Mischel, 5/7/04,                                                               
as amended, out of committee  with individual recommendations and                                                               
the  accompanying fiscal  note.   There being  no objection,  HCS                                                               
CSSB  364(JUD) was  reported from  the  House Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2021                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG  moved to report the  Senate Health, Education                                                               
and Social Services Standing Committee's  letter of intent out of                                                               
committee along  with the  bill.  There  being no  objection, the                                                               
letter  of intent  was  also reported  from  the House  Judiciary                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[HCS CSSB 364(JUD) was reported from committee.]                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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